The following page gives instructions for changing the ISP on the Bush, it could be handy. Now, anyone else on NTL with a cable modem and a real modem, and we can get cheap net connections by dialling each other. http://www.kentwebnet.com/bush David -- "Not *the* Jane Harrington? Jane 'bury me in a Y-shaped coffin' Harrington?" -- Edmund Blackadder.